Glavine?Will He Come Home? - Page 2

BravesRule22 · November 28th, 2006, 11:44 PM

Ugh.........please dont give Glavine an option year

1 year will be bad enough, but 2 ?

bravefan29 · November 28th, 2006, 11:48 PM

Dave O'Brien from the AJC says the Braves haven't even made Glavine an offer yet, and may attempt to trade Giles and/or Hudson before doing so.

BravesRule22 · November 29th, 2006, 09:09 AM

IF we HAVE to trade Hudson to get Glavine....DO NOT DO IT

Yogi44 · November 29th, 2006, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BravesRule22

IF we HAVE to trade Hudson to get Glavine....DO NOT DO IT

I agree BRule.... I still not convinced that Glavine is not just using us to drive up the 2 year deal he'd get from the Mets. Given the market this offseason, Hudson's salary is a steal. No need in trading him in hopes that Glavine will replace both innings and productivity. I also think Hudson has continually had problems with that hip and tries to pitch through it. Big case for me would to have both Hudson and Glavine, but if given the choice I'll take Hudson.

steve30084 · November 29th, 2006, 05:26 PM

I think Ramirez would be the pitcher most likely to be dealt

TheDeathlessHorsie · November 29th, 2006, 05:38 PM

I KNOW that this deal makes NO sense given our payroll, but fer cryin out loud....Glavin won us a championship. He DESERVES the chance to win #300 in the uni that brung him to the Show.

I'm sorry, but I'm going with the only nostalgic bone I have in my body.

Seeing Tommy G win #300 in a Mutts uni would chafe my ass more than missing the playoffs next year. YES I SAID THAT. Don't ask me to defend that statement logically...I just can't. This is just a touchy feely piece o crap.

texasleaguer · November 29th, 2006, 06:51 PM

I'm all for moving Horacio Ramirez for anything. Quickly.

Lenny · November 29th, 2006, 07:30 PM

I wish Glavine would have never left, but I really don't like the way he did leave, so now he can just stay gone as far as I'm concerned. I'm not a big fan of unions in the first place, so I'm not real high on the reasons he left.

D55 · November 30th, 2006, 08:47 AM

I'm not real high on ANY reason for his return either.

Yogi44 · November 30th, 2006, 09:38 AM

OK, I'm repeating something I said at another board

, but here's a thought on Glavine and it dragging out.

Maybe Omar and Glavine's "agreement" on both declining options was based on Glavine making a decision in a timely manner that would benefit the Mets. They would either get him back or get 2 picks from the Braves. So if that thought process was in place and it comes to the arbitration deadline, my guess is that the Mets do offer him arbitration. With the market the way it is, they'd come to a "market value" contract before ever seeing arbitration.

rrandom · November 30th, 2006, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yogi44

Given the market this offseason, Hudson's salary is a steal. No need in trading him in hopes that Glavine will replace both innings and productivity. I also think Hudson has continually had problems with that hip and tries to pitch through it. Big case for me would to have both Hudson and Glavine, but if given the choice I'll take Hudson.

Given the way he has pitched the last year and a half, Hudson isn't anywhere near worth his salary. I wouldn't doubt it if his hip or oblique was the original cause of his problems. But right now, his mechanics are shot. It is possible that he can regain his form, but right now his motion is different from pitch to pitch and he relies on location and consistent sinking action to be sucessful.

With Glavine we can be pretty sure of what we get- a good to very good pitcher in the first half of the season and a mediocre to fairly decent one in the second half.

All that said, I would be saddened immensely to see Tommy get #300 in any other uniform.

MikeT · November 30th, 2006, 08:16 PM

The answer may be here soon according to this articlehttp://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sp...01glavine.html

bravefan29 · November 30th, 2006, 09:12 PM

Clifton told the NY Times, "he’s going to make a decision, I would think, by tomorrow".

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/01/sp...ll/01chass.htm

D55 · December 1st, 2006, 07:10 AM

Yeah and ego man has his "premium content" showing up on the Mutts site for anyone interested in his rampant drool.

But essentially it says JS and Tommy have comes to a side agreement, Huddy and Giles are probably gone by early next week if not before.

I love it when someone cut and pastes from that jerk's so called pocket change site. Hope it continues.

Lenny · December 1st, 2006, 11:56 AM

I still say I would rather keep Huddy than get Glavine back. I know it's a gamble but I like what I saw last year at the end of the year and I just think he can continue to go in that same direction.

November 29th, 2006, 05:38 PM	#21 (permalink)
TheDeathlessHorsie Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pan-dimensional Transient Posts: 415	I KNOW that this deal makes NO sense given our payroll, but fer cryin out loud....Glavin won us a championship. He DESERVES the chance to win #300 in the uni that brung him to the Show. I'm sorry, but I'm going with the only nostalgic bone I have in my body. Seeing Tommy G win #300 in a Mutts uni would chafe my ass more than missing the playoffs next year. YES I SAID THAT. Don't ask me to defend that statement logically...I just can't. This is just a touchy feely piece o crap. __________________ "If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base."

November 28th, 2006, 11:44 PM	#16 (permalink)
BravesRule22 Basketball Community Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,089	Ugh.........please dont give Glavine an option year 1 year will be bad enough, but 2 ?

November 28th, 2006, 11:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
bravefan29 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 33	Dave O'Brien from the AJC says the Braves haven't even made Glavine an offer yet, and may attempt to trade Giles and/or Hudson before doing so.

November 29th, 2006, 09:09 AM	#18 (permalink)
BravesRule22 Basketball Community Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,089	IF we HAVE to trade Hudson to get Glavine....DO NOT DO IT

November 29th, 2006, 05:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
steve30084 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 59	I think Ramirez would be the pitcher most likely to be dealt

November 29th, 2006, 06:51 PM	#22 (permalink)
texasleaguer Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 60	I'm all for moving Horacio Ramirez for anything. Quickly.

November 29th, 2006, 07:30 PM	#23 (permalink)
Lenny Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 240	I wish Glavine would have never left, but I really don't like the way he did leave, so now he can just stay gone as far as I'm concerned. I'm not a big fan of unions in the first place, so I'm not real high on the reasons he left.

November 30th, 2006, 08:47 AM	#24 (permalink)
D55 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 374	I'm not real high on ANY reason for his return either.

November 30th, 2006, 09:38 AM	#25 (permalink)
Yogi44 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: McGee's Crossroads, NC Posts: 254	OK, I'm repeating something I said at another board , but here's a thought on Glavine and it dragging out. Maybe Omar and Glavine's "agreement" on both declining options was based on Glavine making a decision in a timely manner that would benefit the Mets. They would either get him back or get 2 picks from the Braves. So if that thought process was in place and it comes to the arbitration deadline, my guess is that the Mets do offer him arbitration. With the market the way it is, they'd come to a "market value" contract before ever seeing arbitration.

November 30th, 2006, 08:16 PM	#27 (permalink)
MikeT Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,591	The answer may be here soon according to this articlehttp://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sp...01glavine.html

November 30th, 2006, 09:12 PM	#28 (permalink)
bravefan29 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 33	Clifton told the NY Times, "he’s going to make a decision, I would think, by tomorrow". http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/01/sp...ll/01chass.htm

December 1st, 2006, 07:10 AM	#29 (permalink)
D55 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 374	Yeah and ego man has his "premium content" showing up on the Mutts site for anyone interested in his rampant drool. But essentially it says JS and Tommy have comes to a side agreement, Huddy and Giles are probably gone by early next week if not before. I love it when someone cut and pastes from that jerk's so called pocket change site. Hope it continues.

December 1st, 2006, 11:56 AM	#30 (permalink)
Lenny Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 240	I still say I would rather keep Huddy than get Glavine back. I know it's a gamble but I like what I saw last year at the end of the year and I just think he can continue to go in that same direction.