Winter Meetings - Anything?

Yogi44 · 12-04-2006, 11:40 AM

Does anyone else feel that these WM's will be a big letdown for us? I'm frustrated that so many seem to think JS's strategy for the whole week went up in smoke the minute Glavine signed with the Mets. Not frustrated with those you think that, but that JS. If that is true, then it's becoming much too frequent that JS put's his offseason plans in one basket. Any interruption in that plan and he just seems to get lost. I guess it boils down to I have lost confidence in how he's handling things lately.

Of course, I know it takes two to tango and if you don't have a trading partner because of matchup problems, then you can force something. But since JS's first salvo was to sign Sturtze, then I just do not see us getting much done at the WM's.

BravesRule22 · 12-04-2006, 11:58 AM

I actually think something will get done, will it be big ? Probably not

Will we be dissapointed ? More than likely

I foresee a stupid Giles trade coming, myself

D55 · 12-04-2006, 12:53 PM

I see a Giles deal, maybe anAndruw talk or two. Huddy will cross his lips I think. I seriously doubt JS does anything during the meetings but will do his dealing the week after. I think he is there to set up a deal, not make one while there.

Yogi44 · 12-04-2006, 01:26 PM

I still do not see Andruw being traded unless the club gets a negotiating window to come up with a long-term deal. I just think Boras is salivating at the prospect of AJ being out there. I think he'll invoke his 10-5 rights each and every time JS comes calling.

Giles will end up being a Kevin Millwood trade. JS will say "this is the best I could do given the financial constraints we're under". He'll be traded for the sake of $$$, doesn't matter what we get back.

texasleaguer · 12-04-2006, 03:34 PM

Yep. And then we'll be back to putting Rafael Belliard type hitters in our lineup.

renny · 12-04-2006, 10:40 PM

We need PatioDaddio over here - maybe he'll update us on what they're chattin' up over on the premo side.

Wonder what big deal Shanks is gonna swing for us next. heh

BravesRule22 · 12-05-2006, 12:21 AM

He wouldnt post over here, im pretty sure he doesnt like any of us except Jo lol

Snowman · 12-05-2006, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Yogi44

Not frustrated with those you think that, but that JS. If that is true, then it's becoming much too frequent that JS put's his offseason plans in one basket.

You said it, brother. I'll admit that I've always been a little wary of JS, but I had softened up on him a lot over the years. That all ended last winter, when he admitted that he was so sure that Farnsworth and Furcal were going to resign with us that he had no backup plan. That lack of foresight forced us to make the desperation trade for Renteria, and caused us to have a (yet another) terrible bullpen. Its a huge part of a GM's job to plan for contingencies, dammit.

LongtimeBravesFan · 12-05-2006, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BravesRule22

PD = Bills B***h

He wouldnt post over here, im pretty sure he doesnt like any of us except Jo lol

That's one of my biggest problems with that site. so many people seem to think Bill walks on water and take what he says as Gospel. He'll mention some draftee signing to a Rookie League deal and everyone jumps up and down telling him how great he is to tell them that.

In a thread the other day someone suggested maybe Giles wouldn't be tradexd. The first reply to that was that couldn't happen, since bill had guarneteed a Giles tade.

TheDeathlessHorsie · 12-05-2006, 07:34 PM

I DEFINITELY see JS doing something stupid this week. And If not this week then sometime this winter. As someone above said, he can always justify any bonehead move with the payroll constraints he has to "suffer" under.

On the BS/PD/BC thingie:

I could care less. That guy is, was, and will always be, nothing more than a jock-sniffing tool. I read some of his "book" in a Borders a coupla months ago, and I have to say, with not too much modesty, that I've written game threads where I've been more eloquent in 3 paragraphs about Tenzeng Norgay and his relationship to baseball than anything that boob said in his entire book.

Dimino on 790 has more baseball sense in his little toe. I've never said I knew more about baseball and the home team than somebody who can snap towels in the locker room and slurp at the corporate teat of the flagship radio station.

Access doesn't make you smart. Taking dictation from the GM, and the rest of the organization's management doesn't make you a writer either. Not saying I'M a writer, by no means, hell, I've never been published.

Let me just say one thing to BS:

I actually met George Will once at a Newt Gingrich fundraiser back in the 80's. He was very nice. You, BS, will never even be fit to hold George Will's jock.

And I will make one more prediction. That arrogant POS will get a piece of info that he just CAN'T sit on, and let it slip, and he will bring himself down.

END OF LINE.

LongtimeBravesFan · 12-05-2006, 07:41 PM

I don't see Hudson being traded since we didn't sign Glavine.

jpx7 · 12-05-2006, 09:02 PM

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I have to say, with not too much modesty, that I've written game threads where I've been more eloquent in 3 paragraphs about Tenzeng Norgay and his relationship to baseball than anything that boob said in his entire book.

Seconded.

Of course, I have to say the preceding harangue you wrote, and probably a few other posts on this thread, are examples of better writing.

texasleaguer · 12-05-2006, 09:37 PM

I agree with Horsie, I'm sure JS is going to do something stupid this week.

Oh, and now that we've been told, or actually a thread was announced and closed that Boras won't deal with JS this offseason, I'm sure we're going to be bombarded with "Andruw for..." threads. And all the justifications about moving him rather than paying him.

Yogi44 · 12-06-2006, 06:23 AM

Well one thing IS for certain. Putting aside my dislike of Boras, he is very good at what he does. Given the market that has panned out this offseason, Andruw should get $20 million per season, easy. Unless new owners bump the payroll, there is no way we can keep him IMO.

TheDeathlessHorsie · 12-06-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Yogi44

Well one thing IS for certain. Putting aside my dislike of Boras, he is very good at what he does. Given the market that has panned out this offseason, Andruw should get $20 million per season, easy. Unless new owners bump the payroll, there is no way we can keep him IMO.

True dat, Yogi.

See, my prediction has already come true. And call Boras whatever you want, but that guy gets his players PAID. He does his job better than ANY agent.

12-04-2006, 11:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
Yogi44 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: McGee's Crossroads, NC Posts: 253	Winter Meetings - Anything? Does anyone else feel that these WM's will be a big letdown for us? I'm frustrated that so many seem to think JS's strategy for the whole week went up in smoke the minute Glavine signed with the Mets. Not frustrated with those you think that, but that JS. If that is true, then it's becoming much too frequent that JS put's his offseason plans in one basket. Any interruption in that plan and he just seems to get lost. I guess it boils down to I have lost confidence in how he's handling things lately. Of course, I know it takes two to tango and if you don't have a trading partner because of matchup problems, then you can force something. But since JS's first salvo was to sign Sturtze, then I just do not see us getting much done at the WM's.

12-05-2006, 12:21 AM	#7 (permalink)
BravesRule22 Basketball Community Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,089	He wouldnt post over here, im pretty sure he doesnt like any of us except Jo lol Last edited by BravesRule22; 12-11-2006 at 11:05 AM.

12-05-2006, 07:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
TheDeathlessHorsie Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pan-dimensional Transient Posts: 415	I DEFINITELY see JS doing something stupid this week. And If not this week then sometime this winter. As someone above said, he can always justify any bonehead move with the payroll constraints he has to "suffer" under. On the BS/PD/BC thingie: I could care less. That guy is, was, and will always be, nothing more than a jock-sniffing tool. I read some of his "book" in a Borders a coupla months ago, and I have to say, with not too much modesty, that I've written game threads where I've been more eloquent in 3 paragraphs about Tenzeng Norgay and his relationship to baseball than anything that boob said in his entire book. Dimino on 790 has more baseball sense in his little toe. I've never said I knew more about baseball and the home team than somebody who can snap towels in the locker room and slurp at the corporate teat of the flagship radio station. Access doesn't make you smart. Taking dictation from the GM, and the rest of the organization's management doesn't make you a writer either. Not saying I'M a writer, by no means, hell, I've never been published. Let me just say one thing to BS: I actually met George Will once at a Newt Gingrich fundraiser back in the 80's. He was very nice. You, BS, will never even be fit to hold George Will's jock. And I will make one more prediction. That arrogant POS will get a piece of info that he just CAN'T sit on, and let it slip, and he will bring himself down. END OF LINE. __________________ "If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base."

12-04-2006, 11:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
BravesRule22 Basketball Community Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,089	I actually think something will get done, will it be big ? Probably not Will we be dissapointed ? More than likely I foresee a stupid Giles trade coming, myself

12-04-2006, 12:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
D55 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 373	I see a Giles deal, maybe anAndruw talk or two. Huddy will cross his lips I think. I seriously doubt JS does anything during the meetings but will do his dealing the week after. I think he is there to set up a deal, not make one while there.

12-04-2006, 01:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
Yogi44 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: McGee's Crossroads, NC Posts: 253	I still do not see Andruw being traded unless the club gets a negotiating window to come up with a long-term deal. I just think Boras is salivating at the prospect of AJ being out there. I think he'll invoke his 10-5 rights each and every time JS comes calling. Giles will end up being a Kevin Millwood trade. JS will say "this is the best I could do given the financial constraints we're under". He'll be traded for the sake of $$$, doesn't matter what we get back.

12-04-2006, 03:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
texasleaguer Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 52	Yep. And then we'll be back to putting Rafael Belliard type hitters in our lineup.

12-04-2006, 10:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
renny Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: along side the veteran presents `) Posts: 1,988	We need PatioDaddio over here - maybe he'll update us on what they're chattin' up over on the premo side. Wonder what big deal Shanks is gonna swing for us next. heh

12-05-2006, 07:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
LongtimeBravesFan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,159	I don't see Hudson being traded since we didn't sign Glavine.

12-05-2006, 09:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
texasleaguer Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 52	I agree with Horsie, I'm sure JS is going to do something stupid this week. Oh, and now that we've been told, or actually a thread was announced and closed that Boras won't deal with JS this offseason, I'm sure we're going to be bombarded with "Andruw for..." threads. And all the justifications about moving him rather than paying him.

12-06-2006, 06:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
Yogi44 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: McGee's Crossroads, NC Posts: 253	Well one thing IS for certain. Putting aside my dislike of Boras, he is very good at what he does. Given the market that has panned out this offseason, Andruw should get $20 million per season, easy. Unless new owners bump the payroll, there is no way we can keep him IMO.