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MikeT · December 1st, 2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pfiggy

Per Rotoworld:

Braves designated RHP Lance Cormier for assignment.
Cormier had a 7.09 ERA in nine starts and one relief appearance for the Braves last season, leaving him with a career mark of 14-18 with a 5.98 ERA and a 157/129 K/BB ratio in 244 innings. In other words, he's not very good.

Couldn't have said that better mahownself...........

Little late isn't it?

Snowman · December 1st, 2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by renny

This is all so much BS - I thought Torri Hunter said Santana always wanted to be a Yankee.

It's more than Hunter saying it. Article after article is stating that he is letting it be known he will not sign an extension with anyone other than the Yankees unless the amount is more per year than A-Rod's Texas deal. I cannot imagine anyone else trading top pieces away for one year of a player, even Santana.

Reminds me a bit of the Griffey screwed the Mariners while making sure he got traded to Cincy for what at the time looked to be nearly nothing (the big difference being the fact that Hughes is actually a damned good piece... 21 and already a major league #2 pitcher, with solid ace potential. Cameron was coming off of a year in which he barely cleared the Mendoza line, and was being given up on by his second team in two years.).

And I hope it works out for the Yanks just as well as that deal worked out for the Reds.

Perfect Cell · December 2nd, 2007, 05:06 PM

Talk now that the Sawx will give up Ellisbury. It feels like an arms race between the Sawx and the Yanks. The Cold Baseball War! Who Blinks first! The Arms Race! Santana, Bedard, Haren!

In the end anybody else looses.

Snowman · December 2nd, 2007, 07:03 PM

Well, it's one step forward and two back for the Twins. They've apparently agreed to add Ellsbury, but are pulling Lester and instead adding a pitcher named Masterson I'm not familiar with. The Yankees have also given the Twins until Monday night to agree to their offer or they're going to pull it, and might pull Hughes anyway because of the delay. Twins should've took it while they could.

Also, the Astros made the worst signing of the offseason, giving Kaz Matsui $5.5 million per for the next three years, and the Padres are nearing an extension with Peavy that would lock him up from '10 through '12 at $17 mil per.

Snowman · December 2nd, 2007, 10:36 PM

Before I get to the link here, I want to stress something: Do not click the link if you are easily offended by foul language. Period.

No, really. I mean that.

Anyway, as far as I can tell, this is a legitimate auction house, specializing in baseball collectibles. In their blog they have some pics of a document in which the league office was attempting to put an end to on-field swearing by players way back in 1897, complete with numerous examples of the sort of unacceptable language they wanted eradicated.

Al Swearengen would be proud

Snowman · December 2nd, 2007, 11:26 PM

Man, if the Twins don't want to see Santana leave for nothing more than draft picks after next season they'd better stop doing the Chuck Lamar imitation. The Yankees have contacted Oakland about Haren and B'more about Bedard (who has said he will not sign an extension with the O's), and the BoSox have made inquiries into Haren and Sheets.

Perfect Cell · December 3rd, 2007, 08:13 AM

Haren and Bedard are going to be even more expensive than Johan prospect wise. Thats cracy

Snowman · December 3rd, 2007, 01:27 PM

The Nats and Rays are discussing a Dukes deal.

Which means that Lastings Milledge and Elijah Dukes could be in the same clubhouse in '08.

GenericBravesFan · December 3rd, 2007, 02:41 PM

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Which means that Lastings Milledge and Elijah Dukes could be in the same clubhouse in '08.

I mean this in the nicest way possible:

Seriously, females in the DC area better watch out with those two together.

Snowman · December 3rd, 2007, 02:57 PM

The Rays have reportedly agreed to send Dukes to the Nats for..... a PTBNL?!?!?!?

Snowman · December 4th, 2007, 07:37 AM

Heh, the Yankees and BoSox reportedly collectively pulled Hughes, Ellsbury, and Buchholz, and the Twins are now close to dealing Santana to the BoSox for Lester, Crisp, P Justin Masterson, and IF Jed Lowrie.

They just screwed themselves royally by not taking Hughes or Ellsbury when they were on the table.

jpx7 · December 4th, 2007, 08:02 AM

Good deal for the Red Sox — I'm glad Santana at least is less likely to be a Yankee.

pfiggy · December 4th, 2007, 08:57 AM

ESPN Radio 1000 reports that the Cubs have traded Omar Infante and Will Ohman to the Braves for Jose Ascanio.
The Cubs traded for Infante last month, but both he and Ohman were somewhat redundant on the roster and figure to cost a combined $3.5 million or so for 2008. A 22-year-old reliever, Ascanio had a 2.54 ERA and 71/18 K/BB ratio in 78 innings at Double-A in 2007 before a 13-game stint with the Braves to end the season.

Snowman · December 4th, 2007, 08:57 AM

We traded Ascanio to the Cubs for Ohman and Infante. Infante is a slightly younger Pete Orr, and Ohman is a slightly older, less talented Villareal who cannot pitch as many innings.

Snowman · December 4th, 2007, 08:58 AM

Heh, same time, pfigment. Ohman also has a rep as HUGE clubhouse cancer.

December 2nd, 2007, 07:03 PM	#79 (permalink)
Snowman Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Topsail Beach, NC Posts: 1,335	Well, it's one step forward and two back for the Twins. They've apparently agreed to add Ellsbury, but are pulling Lester and instead adding a pitcher named Masterson I'm not familiar with. The Yankees have also given the Twins until Monday night to agree to their offer or they're going to pull it, and might pull Hughes anyway because of the delay. Twins should've took it while they could. Also, the Astros made the worst signing of the offseason, giving Kaz Matsui $5.5 million per for the next three years, and the Padres are nearing an extension with Peavy that would lock him up from '10 through '12 at $17 mil per. __________________ That corpse you planted last year in your garden, Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year? Or has the sudden frost disturbed its bed? If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.

December 2nd, 2007, 10:36 PM	#80 (permalink)
Snowman Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Topsail Beach, NC Posts: 1,335	Before I get to the link here, I want to stress something: Do not click the link if you are easily offended by foul language. Period. No, really. I mean that. Anyway, as far as I can tell, this is a legitimate auction house, specializing in baseball collectibles. In their blog they have some pics of a document in which the league office was attempting to put an end to on-field swearing by players way back in 1897, complete with numerous examples of the sort of unacceptable language they wanted eradicated. Al Swearengen would be proud __________________ That corpse you planted last year in your garden, Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year? Or has the sudden frost disturbed its bed? If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.

December 2nd, 2007, 11:26 PM	#81 (permalink)
Snowman Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Topsail Beach, NC Posts: 1,335	Man, if the Twins don't want to see Santana leave for nothing more than draft picks after next season they'd better stop doing the Chuck Lamar imitation. The Yankees have contacted Oakland about Haren and B'more about Bedard (who has said he will not sign an extension with the O's), and the BoSox have made inquiries into Haren and Sheets. __________________ That corpse you planted last year in your garden, Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year? Or has the sudden frost disturbed its bed? If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.

December 3rd, 2007, 01:27 PM	#83 (permalink)
Snowman Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Topsail Beach, NC Posts: 1,335	The Nats and Rays are discussing a Dukes deal. Which means that Lastings Milledge and Elijah Dukes could be in the same clubhouse in '08. __________________ That corpse you planted last year in your garden, Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year? Or has the sudden frost disturbed its bed? If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.

December 3rd, 2007, 02:57 PM	#85 (permalink)
Snowman Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Topsail Beach, NC Posts: 1,335	The Rays have reportedly agreed to send Dukes to the Nats for..... a PTBNL?!?!?!? __________________ That corpse you planted last year in your garden, Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year? Or has the sudden frost disturbed its bed? If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.

December 2nd, 2007, 05:06 PM	#78 (permalink)
Perfect Cell Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 215	Talk now that the Sawx will give up Ellisbury. It feels like an arms race between the Sawx and the Yanks. The Cold Baseball War! Who Blinks first! The Arms Race! Santana, Bedard, Haren! In the end anybody else looses.

December 3rd, 2007, 08:13 AM	#82 (permalink)
Perfect Cell Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 215	Haren and Bedard are going to be even more expensive than Johan prospect wise. Thats cracy

December 4th, 2007, 07:37 AM	#86 (permalink)
Snowman Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Topsail Beach, NC Posts: 1,335	Heh, the Yankees and BoSox reportedly collectively pulled Hughes, Ellsbury, and Buchholz, and the Twins are now close to dealing Santana to the BoSox for Lester, Crisp, P Justin Masterson, and IF Jed Lowrie. They just screwed themselves royally by not taking Hughes or Ellsbury when they were on the table. __________________ That corpse you planted last year in your garden, Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year? Or has the sudden frost disturbed its bed? If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.

December 4th, 2007, 08:02 AM	#87 (permalink)
jpx7 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 568	Good deal for the Red Sox — I'm glad Santana at least is less likely to be a Yankee.

December 4th, 2007, 08:57 AM	#88 (permalink)
pfiggy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 3,716	ESPN Radio 1000 reports that the Cubs have traded Omar Infante and Will Ohman to the Braves for Jose Ascanio. The Cubs traded for Infante last month, but both he and Ohman were somewhat redundant on the roster and figure to cost a combined $3.5 million or so for 2008. A 22-year-old reliever, Ascanio had a 2.54 ERA and 71/18 K/BB ratio in 78 innings at Double-A in 2007 before a 13-game stint with the Braves to end the season.

December 4th, 2007, 08:57 AM	#89 (permalink)
Snowman Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Topsail Beach, NC Posts: 1,335	We traded Ascanio to the Cubs for Ohman and Infante. Infante is a slightly younger Pete Orr, and Ohman is a slightly older, less talented Villareal who cannot pitch as many innings. __________________ That corpse you planted last year in your garden, Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year? Or has the sudden frost disturbed its bed? If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.

December 4th, 2007, 08:58 AM	#90 (permalink)
Snowman Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Topsail Beach, NC Posts: 1,335	Heh, same time, pfigment. Ohman also has a rep as HUGE clubhouse cancer. __________________ That corpse you planted last year in your garden, Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year? Or has the sudden frost disturbed its bed? If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.