Speaking of Hargrove, here is his managerial record:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/ma...argrmi01.shtml
He has 5 straight losing seasons as a manager. The dumbest guy over at the Scout forum could have managed that Indians club to those divison titles.
The next time Hargrove gets a club to overachieve will be the first time he has ever done that.
The intelligent Mariners fans knows that the guy is a bad manager.
I'm pretty sure that by the end of 2007 we will have a new GM and a new manager in place.