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bedir than average · December 23rd, 2006, 04:26 PM

Can a team really "make" a guy their Ace? I don't think that talent changes based upon the team's makeup. Arizona in their championship year could have been said to have had two Aces in Johnson and Schilling, but let's be honest, the Mariners did not have an Ace last year, though they did have an Opening Day starter.

Back to the Zito example, he was 10th by Pitching Runs Created. and 16th by ERA+. Anyone calling him a number three (not you Slica, we've clarified that) isn't looking at his performance, but is looking at a perception of his performance based upon DIPS or FIP only.

December 23rd, 2006, 04:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Can a team really "make" a guy their Ace? I don't think that talent changes based upon the team's makeup. Arizona in their championship year could have been said to have had two Aces in Johnson and Schilling, but let's be honest, the Mariners did not have an Ace last year, though they did have an Opening Day starter. Back to the Zito example, he was 10th by Pitching Runs Created. and 16th by ERA+. Anyone calling him a number three (not you Slica, we've clarified that) isn't looking at his performance, but is looking at a perception of his performance based upon DIPS or FIP only. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement. Last edited by bedir than average; December 23rd, 2006 at 04:30 PM.