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Old January 18th, 2008, 03:27 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by WilsonC View Post
From that standpoint, the DP then becomes the clear "negative" out - it always results in two outs, and always either ends an inning or wipes a runner off base. Other ball-in-play outs become "situationally positive" - giving a chance to add some value.

Using the K as a baseline for the out seems makes more conceptual sense to me. In that sense, Mantle had 71% "potentially positive" outs (outs minus K), and about 1.9% "negative". In comparisson Dimaggio had 92% "potentially positive" outs and about 3.7% "negative". It's a different way of framing the same data, but it seems a truer conceptual image.
I guess the only thing that keeps the strikeout as being almost identical to groundouts would be its avoidance of the DP. So this would mean that fly outs are worth more offensively than G and K. But then, SF are recorded, as are RBI, so utilizing these factors it should properly reward those with more F, particularly of the deeper variety.

This raises another question about DP's, but I'll put that in a new thread.
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