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Originally Posted by bedir than average
Ok, still in this case the lower strike out guy gets fewer total bases than the higher k guy, so I'm unwilling to delve into the snake oil of productive outs.
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Except that this is not true. Mickey Mantle gathered 4,511 TB in 8,102 charged AB's to equal .555 bases per charged AB. DiMaggio totaled 3.948 TB in 6,821 charged AB for a rate of .579.
The production of TB by a contact hitter not given to drawing walks will always have the added edge simply because the more batted balls one puts in play, the higher the chances he has of creating additional total bases. A K creates no such opportunity.
For a hitter like DiMaggio, the comparatively low BB rate in a season [70-80] vs a Mantle [100-120] similarly suggests more batted ball in play AB with a higher yield of TB.
However, the truly great ones do both: Ruth, Gehrig, Bonds, Williams, Foxx, a young, sound Griffey.
Modern players at this level, including Griffey, tend NOT to meet this hig BB; high TB model because they [A-Rod; Griffey; Vlad] tend to walk less, falling between a DiMaggio level and a Mantle level and make contact less consistently than JD.