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Old November 20th, 2007, 10:50 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by nanwynnfan View Post
Hey, I greeted you post and link with some warm and fuzzy reaction; but, while it comports well with my positions on the whole Bonds investigation, it falls short of supporting your point.

To quote, from the link:

"In order for a person to be found guilty of perjury the government must prove: the person testified under oath before [e.g., the grand jury]; at least one particular statement was false; and the person knew at the time the testimony was false.

The testimony of one witness is not enough to support a finding that the testimony was false. There must be additional evidence, either the testimony of another person or other evidence, which tends to support the testimony of falsity. The other evidence, standing alone, need not convince that the testimony was false, but all the evidence on the subject must do so."

All that does is require a number of witnesses or data scources>one [in terms of person and/or source]. Not a very convincing buffer for one inclined to lie deliberately under oath.

Prompted by your allegations, I went to a few cases before the Supreme Court where perjury was pivotal; and the Court seemed to come down on the harsh side of definition and penalty.

If you can quote a specific case reference as your source of "disingenuousness" as a viable tactic, I'd appreciate that reference [and a link, too]; otherwise; sadly, I don't think you've made a convincing argument for the onus being on the court, not upon Bonds.

Thank you for checking the Supreme Court cases. The article does not claim that Barry will get off. I simply presented the criteria that must be met for a perjury conviction. I think he WILL be convicted, but I what I think is irrelevant. What IS relevant are the requirements for perjury, and with our new form of government, it is easier for the government to convict on perjury, unless your name is Clinton.

I think Clinton was NOT guilty of perjury, and it the same logic and standards that must be applied to Bonds. But that will not be the case.

The article lists all my sources in "References."
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