I'll answer this one last one because it is short(er), and your statements are easily rebuttable.
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Wrong, especially over 60-75ip. How many more baserunners reach base over 70 ip for someone with a .8 whip as opposed to a .7 whip?
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You said that there isnt much difference between .7, .8 and .9.
How many people have achieved a sub .7 WHIP? TWO.
Read my last post again...now how many have achieved a sub .9? sub 1.00?
Much, MUCH harder to do.
Do you have any concept on just how hard it is to have a WHIP that low? Allowing ONE extra batter to reach base makes a difference in your WHIP on the season. So you have to respect those that managed the .85 WHIPs more than the 1.00 WHIPs. Its that much more impressive.
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Wow, that statement alone is quite telling. Just wow. Also, you must have missed his career .80era for the postseason and four rings.
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Might want to get that brain checked. We're talking about regular seasons, not post seasons. LOL
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Why 30 plus save seasons, why not 40 plus save seasons, why not 50 plust save seasons??? Would it be because Ryan wouldn't appear as high on those filters?
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I already explained in my last post that saves are underrated because they depend on the team putting you in that situation. Saves is not a good indicator of a pitchers ability. But then again, after reading your posts throughout this thread, I'm not surprised that you would think it is. The fact that you think saves is as important as WHIP and ERA shows you don't properly understand which stats are more important.
30+ saves was my cutoff because most closers are able to get 30 saves over a full season of closing, no matter how bad they pitch (e.g. - Batista)
I guess I could have chosen 20 saves. The point was to limit it to closers.
40+ or 50+ saves would be ridiculous. That would eliminate a large number of pitchers' seasons for unfair reasons. But again, as I mentioned earlier I wouldnt expect you to understand why.
And now we're finished. I refuse to debate with someone who doesnt understand what he's debating about.
I'm confident that anyone else who reads this entire thread will understand what I've been trying to say.