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nanwynnfan · 08-16-2007, 05:07 PM

WilsonC wrote:

"With a runner on third and less than two outs, the cost of a strikeout or short flyball is high. Rather than looking at some broad 'performing in the clutch' skill, it would be worth looking at whether some players are able to adjust their approach in subtle ways to focus on giving themselves a better chance at achieving an outcome that has a high leverage factor in particular game situations."

Exactly. And that is why I featured it as a heading in the first presentation of selected players. However, statitically speaking, if one dares to isolate this situation against "neutral," he'll have his head handed to him simply on the basis of "insuffiecient data samples."

However, I could see some math whiz [not I - too old, not inclined to the tedium] taking that and constructing a model in which it is a modifying factor with real interpretative value, perhaps even as a forecasting tool weighing in age, and past performace history.

That whiz would in all probability need Retrosheet data and the patience of Job to construct his model; but at the bottom line, the thing I'd pay admission to see is, for example, a lifetime .273 hitter proved out to be more "clutch" than his more famous HR-hitting teammate.

I would not surprise me too much, an old Red Sox fan back to pre-WW II Williams & DiMaggio, a Queens, NY Yankee-hater [who liked Dickey, Chandler, & Keller]. It was Keller coming to the plate that made my knees knock; and years later, it was Mize, not Mantle who gave me that same queezy feeling.

Another guy one didn't want to see coming up way back was Ferris Fain, who always found a way to hurt you.

Since we are tossing several ingredients into the mix, here's one tossed at me by my retinologist, who reattached me in 2001: cross dominance. A big baseball fan [and knowledeable too] he's reiterated in conversations that if he were a scout, he'd look for bats left, throws right guys every time. As a baseball characteristic, he sees this as THE single all-around edge an offensive player can have. [Just tossing it into the mix for prospective scouts].

08-16-2007, 05:07 PM	#90 (permalink)
nanwynnfan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,579	WilsonC wrote: "With a runner on third and less than two outs, the cost of a strikeout or short flyball is high. Rather than looking at some broad 'performing in the clutch' skill, it would be worth looking at whether some players are able to adjust their approach in subtle ways to focus on giving themselves a better chance at achieving an outcome that has a high leverage factor in particular game situations." Exactly. And that is why I featured it as a heading in the first presentation of selected players. However, statitically speaking, if one dares to isolate this situation against "neutral," he'll have his head handed to him simply on the basis of "insuffiecient data samples." However, I could see some math whiz [not I - too old, not inclined to the tedium] taking that and constructing a model in which it is a modifying factor with real interpretative value, perhaps even as a forecasting tool weighing in age, and past performace history. That whiz would in all probability need Retrosheet data and the patience of Job to construct his model; but at the bottom line, the thing I'd pay admission to see is, for example, a lifetime .273 hitter proved out to be more "clutch" than his more famous HR-hitting teammate. I would not surprise me too much, an old Red Sox fan back to pre-WW II Williams & DiMaggio, a Queens, NY Yankee-hater [who liked Dickey, Chandler, & Keller]. It was Keller coming to the plate that made my knees knock; and years later, it was Mize, not Mantle who gave me that same queezy feeling. Another guy one didn't want to see coming up way back was Ferris Fain, who always found a way to hurt you. Since we are tossing several ingredients into the mix, here's one tossed at me by my retinologist, who reattached me in 2001: cross dominance. A big baseball fan [and knowledeable too] he's reiterated in conversations that if he were a scout, he'd look for bats left, throws right guys every time. As a baseball characteristic, he sees this as THE single all-around edge an offensive player can have. [Just tossing it into the mix for prospective scouts]. Last edited by nanwynnfan; 08-16-2007 at 05:13 PM.